HTC Vive Focus 3

komisch · 13. Juli 2021

Oder wenn die Neue von Sony kommt

SolKutTeR · 13. Juli 2021

Sorry für's offtopic.

Die Farbtreue von LCD meinte ich bei dem Index Panels jetzt nicht unbedingt, klar die können mit keinem OLED gleichziehen. Mein erster Gedanke war beim Aufsetzen auch zuerst, wo sind die ganzen Farben hin, obwohl die meisten Influencer davon sprachen das es an ein OLED heranreicht? Jede noch so dunkle Szene lässt mich wehmütig an das gute OLED denken und Pimax kommt immer öfter in mein Raster. Das Hauptproblem der LCD Panels in der Index ist, auch hauptsächlich durch die niedrige Pixeldichte verschuldet, die Subpixel an sich. Ähnliche Auflösungen im LCD Markt weißen leider das gleiche Problem auf. Bei z.B. G2 Auflösung vielleicht auch zu beobachten, aber dann weitaus feiner.

Ihr kennt es ja sicher auch beispielsweise bei defekten Subpixel am Monitor/TV, wenn man es einmal gesehen hat, sieht man es immer wieder, daher der Spoiler. Ich meinte damit eher das man bei jeglichen Rottönen folgendes Raster sieht, umso mehr rot im Farbtone umso ausgeprägter das Phänomen.

Das Bild stammt nicht von mir und das Raster ist gleichmäßig zu betrachten. (Größe/Entfernung/Anordnung)

Franky2019 · 13. Juli 2021

Ich hatte nach der HTC Vive Focus 3 direkt mal meine Oculus Quest 1 hervorgeholt, ich muss für HTC leider sagen, das mir das Bild der Quest in allen Belangen, bis auf den SDE, deutlich besser gefallen hat. Auch das Bild der HTC Vive Pro 2 ist besser, sowohl über Kabel als auch Drahtlos verbunden.

SolKutTeR · 11. November 2021

Diverse neue Features wie z.B. WiFi 6E Support.

Introducing New Features for VIVE Focus 3
Shen Ye, Senior Director, Global Head of Hardware Products, HTC • 11.11.21
By Shen Ye, Senior Director, Global Head of Hardware Products, HTC

Today, we’re rolling out new features specifically designed for customers using location-based applications. We’re excited to offer this set of features on VIVE Focus 3, our all-in-one wireless headset with outstanding visuals and next level inside-out tracking. VIVE Focus 3 was thoughtfully designed to provide capabilities that were not yet supported at launch, and we’re excited to be the first to deliver all of these features in one headset.
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WiFi 6E
Traditional WiFi 4, 5, and 6 have operated in the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz frequencies. WiFi 6E is a new standard of that operates at the 6 GHz frequency range and brings a wide range of benefits. It’s not only extremely low latency and high bandwidth (perfect for VR streaming), using the new frequency range drastically minimizes the usual WiFi interference that exists. With up to 1.2 GHz frequency range, it is also able to accommodate more than double the number of devices with their own dedicated channels* – for a numbers comparison, going from WiFi 6 (5GHz) to WiFi 6E is going from 25 to 59 separate 20MHz channels or 2 to 7 separate 160 MHz channels.

VIVE Focus 3 will soon be certified to use WiFi 6E, thus unlocking extremely low latency, high bandwidth VR streaming capability. VIVE Focus 3 has had all the hardware needed for WiFi 6E since the beginning, so there’s no added cost to the headset owner to leverage this functionality. With WiFi 6E, users will experience a smoother, more immersive, and overall better customer experience. We will be enabling WiFi 6E in the coming months through over-the-air software updates.*

*As WiFi 6E is still a new standard, availability and channels will be dependent on local legislation in your country
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LBE (Location Based Entertainment) Mode
VIVE Focus 3 is now able to support tracking across a much larger play area, allowing businesses to leverage very large spaces and deliver a truly free-roaming experience. VIVE Focus 3 launched with the ability to track up to a 15m × 15m space, for comparison that’s between the area of a singles and doubles tennis court.

Today we’re happy to announce that VIVE Focus 3 will be able to support up to 33m x 30m (or 1,000m2) with smooth and seamless 6DoF tracking, providing greater flexibility to deliver immersive and compelling user experiences. Back to the tennis court comparison, this is the size of four tennis courts.

With LBE Mode, you can create a boundary in any shape you want — polygon, L-shape or any other custom shape. Once the map is set up, the experience will be ready for users to dive into. There is no need to set up the map multiple times. Automatic creation of a new boundary is disabled in LBE mode, so the HMD (head mounted device) will constantly re-localize in the known play area.

After the set up, the player can always relocate back to any point of the play area – even in spaces that are bigger than a basketball court.

LBE Mode enables customers to create large spaces for VR arcade, arena experiences or large training areas for their users, so the experience is even more realistic.

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Map Sharing
VIVE Focus 3 now offers Map Sharing, a hugely requested feature, especially among our LBE customers. It allows multiple users to operate accurate co-location tracking in a shared space, without having to individually setup or calibrate each HMD. VIVE Focus 3 is the only headset that supports inside-out tracking – making it faster and easier for customers to customize the user experience.

Most other multiplayer free-roaming experiences use an outside-in tracking system, requiring users to carry a PCVR backpack and play in a limited space with the Lighthouse system. With Map Sharing and LBE Mode, users can finally run around in the field, provide cover for each other in shooting games or share their different perspectives in escape games. These two features also make it easier to scale large, multi-person visual exhibitions like VR art galleries or professional training areas.

To enable Map Sharing, just set up a map with one VIVE Focus 3, and the map can then easily be shared with multiple HMDs at the same time. Map Sharing also allows for:

Duplicate single boundary/direction/center of map/floor height to all headsets.

All headsets can work in a single ground truth for localization and tracking without extra calibration required.

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VO (Visual Odometry) Mode
Visual Odometry (VO) mode enables users to skip the 5-minute environment set-up and begin to immediately go into the 6DoF experience right after they put on the HMD.

When you are running a multi-person experience that rotates people in and out, it takes a lot of time when each user needs to recalibrate the headset and start in a specific location in order to start the VR experience.

Now, VIVE Focus 3 makes the environment recalibration process faster and easier for users, with 6DoF tracking is available immediately right after the user puts on the VIVE Focus 3. Both the Direction of View and Center of Coordination is set as soon as the user dons the VIVE Focus 3.

In VO mode, there is no map saved on the headset. However, no map doesn’t mean you can’t set boundaries. VO mode can still set up boundaries in VRS settings for the HMD during suspend/resume.

VO mode is great for large multi-person experiences like VR exhibitions where you focus on the viewing experience, single player arcade games (where you stand in a static place to play the game), and athlete training (a group of team mates can take turns practicing their skills in an extremely immersive VR environment for the next big game).

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LBE Hybrid Mode
The LBE Hybrid Mode enables customers to leverage both VO and LBE mode for large-space 6DoF tracking.

From seeing how our headsets are used by our LBE partners, we found around 90% of attendees of LBE social multiplayer experiences require guidance on adjusting the HMD fit, which typically takes place in a prep area. This is where VIVE Focus 3 will be in VO mode, so all they need to do is adjust the HMD.

Then, when the group of players moves to the “play area,” VIVE Focus 3 goes into LBE mode and the user can immediately start using 6DoF tracking without needing to recalibrate or start in a specific spot in the room.

This is ideal when there is a lot of group turnover using the headset, such as for VR arenas or a large VR exhibition where you may have groups rotating to see a work of art.
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Additional Customization Options
Space Calibrator
Based on the open sourced OpenXR Space Calibrator, we’ll be releasing a Focus 3 optimised version which enables even more possibilities for immersive experiences with VIVE Focus 3 by enabling support for other tracking systems. Space Calibrator extends the tracked objects beyond the Focus 3 controllers, so now accessories like a tennis racket or any similar accessories can be more accurately tracked.

The setup is simple. As an example, here’s how you could set up an environment for Focus 3 (with PCVR streaming) working with a VIVE Tracker.

Customers can affix a VIVE Tracker to a VIVE Focus 3 controller, as the picture shows. By using our version of the OpenVR calibration tool, you can use its SteamVR overlay to initiate the alignment process. Hold the Focus 3 Controller and VIVE Tracker combo, and wave them in the shape of a rotated figure of 8 or an infinity sign. When you’re done, the VIVE Tracker will be accurately aligned in the same space as the VIVE Focus 3 tracking system.

Disabling pop-up messages
Ability to disable warning notifications such as “no boundary set up,” “no controller connected,” and other related messages that could interrupt a user.

No floor detection
Enterprise users can manually define the floor height to what they need.

Map number customization
We will also be enabling support for multiple maps to be stored on VIVE Focus 3, up to three per headset.

If you are interested in learning more, reach out to the VIVE sales team or your developer relations contact.
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theonly0n3 · 25. Dezember 2021

Hallo zusammen

Ich besitze momentan die Vive Pro und nutze diese nur rein fürs gaming.
Ich wollte nur gerne mal upgraden wegen besserer Auflösung und so.
Lohnt es sich da auf die Focus 3 zu setzen oder sollte man besser warten bis neuere rauskommen ?

Oimann · 25. Dezember 2021

Ich warte auf Projekt Cambria, würde ich dir auch empfehlen, wenn Du keine Abneigung gegen Meta hast.

komisch · 25. Dezember 2021

Also ich "warte" auf die 12K von Pimax

theonly0n3 · 25. Dezember 2021

gegen Meta habe ich keine Abneigung bin so gut wie für alles offen
aber was genau ist Projekt Cambria bzw wann erscheint es ?

theonly0n3 · 25. Dezember 2021

ok hab mal selber geschaut sieht so echt interessant aus ... wird das auch eine stand alone Brille ? weil wollte schon eine haben die halt keinen PC mehr benötigt.... weil wenn man sieht was die neueren PC VR Brillen für Hardware fordern das ist ja schon nicht mehr schön.....
und ist die Project Cambria fürs gaming gemacht ?

Odyssey_Plus_Man · 25. Dezember 2021

Wenn man davon ausgeht, dass das neue Headset (eben Cambria) quasi die Hardware für Meta's Metaversum ist, dürfte Gaming eher Nebensache sein. Ed wird stark in Richtung AR gehen.

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